The anti GLBTI league are at it again:

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My post which probably wont go up cause it's too long and just rambles on with my reactions to other people's posts:

I'm 39, have been married for 15 years and am straight and I want gay people to be allowed to get married. We don't have children, so getting married isn't for that. I don't believe in any of the thousands of gods available for belief in, so it's not for that. People have a very narrow view of what marriage is for and what it does. My view is also narrow. It is for love. Why can't people get married if they are in love regardless of sexual orientation.

GBLTI people don't effect me. They are doing their own thing with their own lives. However, the moralising prudes who oppose gay marriage do have an effect on me. This minority of busy bodies sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong effects my life too. If you want to live your life by some set of rules made up by goat herders in a time when "the wheelbarrow was emergent technology" (Harris) then go and do that and leave the rest of us to get on with our information age lives. The Amish might have the lifestyle you're looking for.

Do people really imagine that coupling in permanent relationships is a thing that came to humanity via religion? The married state of two people looking after children together resulted in more children. This married state was been co-opted by religion because they knew that they needed to get control of the sex lives of people or they would have no social recognition. As soon as people gave this control to the church, the church knew it had us byt he short and curlies... literally.

Just read the Galaxy report. How would the people complaining about the quality of the survey like the questions to be surveyed? "Thinking about how you will burning in hell for all eternity for supporting gay rights, we're thinking about Sodom and Gomorrah here people, would you say that evil, dirty Gays should be allowed to destroy the world by getting married?" Would the phrasing of that question have made the religious right happy?

Really the GLBTI community is not asking for the right to be married, they are asking for the restriction on their marrying being removed. It is not self evident to me that GLBTI marriage should not be allowed.

Christianity (I'm assuming that this is the god that many people has sighted) has had just shy of 2000 years to make the perfect society. There is a special word for societies where religion has the absolute power that they think they deserve through divine right. That special word is a dark age. Islam is in a dark age at the moment where women can be beaten on the street for dressing in a manner unacceptable to someone holding the Koran and couples can be gaoled for having an affair. Before people want their holy books brought in as law they should have a close look at what they will be tortured and gaoled for. Poly-cotton, eye glasses and shell fish would be crimes carrying the same punishment as being gay.

I don't think that gay people are going to want to force churches to marry them. Why would anyone want to be married in a church where people hate them?